The War and the Church – Part 2

Pastor Jim Sanderbeck

Oct. 7, 2025

Prophetic Dream of Confirmation

Just days ago, one of our AIM members shared a 3-part dream with me that came on Sept. 27, 2025.  I’m putting the entire dream [with removal of specific names] into this blog because it is a NOW word and I don’t wish to expose anyone unnecessarily.  I will tell you that this person is highly credible and has a true prophetic gift.  This dream is filled with devilish behaviors and fits the dilemma of the community of believers that I have shared in this blog.  The dreamer had no prior specific communication with me nor knew that I have been greatly troubled over several months to speak about the diversity expressed in Part 1.  The author writes:

Dream is in three parts

Part 1 –

I’m at work, which is in a large warehouse with boxes and pallets all around.  Colleagues are scattered around the building.  I’m vaguely aware of a scuffle or argument going on in another part of the building but can’t see it and don’t know what’s going on.

Part 2 –

The conflict erupts and it seems from the noise that someone is running through the building and my colleagues are yelling, chasing after him, and trying to stop him.  As he comes into view, he’s pushing what looks like a very large shopping cart filled with things.  I run ahead of him and stand in front of the exit blocking his way.  To my surprise he stops right in front of me.  I stare straight at him.  It’s clearly Maurice [I will use a false name in place of the known person], the head of the facility [I will not disclose name of workplace] where I used to  work. (In real life.)  The cart is filled with gift wrapped packages.  My assumption is he is stealing them from us and as we both stand there, I begin grabbling things out of the cart and tossing them to my colleagues who are now scattered behind me.  Some people catch the packages, but some are clearly just standing there and will not catch them or participate.  So, I just continue emptying the cart as quickly as I can, placing the packages wherever there is room around me.  There are loaves of dark (pumpernickel?) bread wrapped in clear plastic sleeves, packages of cookies, and many gift-wrapped packages of every size and shape from what look like record albums to large square and rectangular boxes.

Part 3 –

I try to find out what just happened.  The collections manager (in charge of all the boxes) tells me she saw him/them taking things but couldn’t leave her post, so phoned her manager to describe what was going on.

I saw a brief clip of photos and video of Maurice and his accomplices surrounded by stolen goods.  They seemed to be gloating over all they had stolen.

When I asked Maurice what he had stolen and why he said, it was “just jam” (i.e. jelly) and that he was “giving it to the poor.”

It was clear to me it was not jam – the boxes were all different shapes and sizes—and he wasn’t going to give it to the poor.  He was a liar and a thief.

Interesting to me that it was clearly Maurice.  In real life he’s the head of the facility.  No one in the facility liked or trusted him.  Though I never personally had a problem with him he always struck me as someone who would be nice to your face but have no qualms about stabbing you in the back.

Impression –

…As I was journaling the dream I had the impression that God might confirm it in some way through my email.  As I read through emails, one was today’s Elijah List post with words from Donna Rigney including this:

“On September 2, 2025, Father declared, “Heaven and earth are Mine! I am coming to take back My creation and to release My children from the control and influence of wicked spirits. By My Spirit, I will be coming and retrieving what was stolen from Us.“

End of Dream(s)

What I believe the Lord is telling us prophetically in these dreams

In terms of timing, I believe that this is a NOW word and very accurate.  All 3 parts are significant:

  1.  For most of us anyway, part 1 of the dream is kind of like when we hear or sense something is stirring but we aren’t quite sure yet what it is.  Our discerning of spirits tells us something is wrong with this situation or this person.  It may be somewhat distanced from us but we are at least semi-aware something is taking place in either the spirit or natural or both.  It heightens our sensitivity to “something is up.”  Well, this part 1 of the dream is warning us that something is upWe need to pay attention to our discernment and look carefully at what is going on around us.
  2. The meat of the story comes through in part 2 of the dream.  In  this dream, I believe we are watching 3 groups.  Satan and his crowd (represented by Maurice), the Ekklesia (those colleagues [i.e. believers in Christ] who are accepting the retrieved packages as they are thrown in their direction) and our fellow “colleagues” who do not want to have anything to do with the packages being thrown towards them.
  • There is no doubt that satan (Maurice) and all demonic forces have been lying, stealing and deceiving. Their motivation is to lie, kill and destroy anything that is contrary to the truth of Scripture.  The view in the natural is that those deceived literally speak illogically and without commonsense.  They are violent, lawless, and condescending.  Their hatred of God and His people is tangible and audible.  The posture that they continually project is on the edge of insanity and it is repeated over and over as if in a script.  (Insanity is doing the same thing again and again expecting a different result.  Remember, satan cannot create.  He can only counterfeit what he has already seen.)  The violence of their words and their violent actions are demonic in nature.  It is totally self-absorbed and self-promoting.  Although they verbalize it in the opposite, their behaviors are designed to produce fear and bring control to a few while binding and victimizing the many.  These characteristics and behaviors are right out of satan’s playbook.  It has been seen throughout Biblical history.
  • Those accepting the packages are the Ekklesia (the community of believers that Jesus is building into true citizens of the Kingdom of God). The packages are Kingdom assignments, Kingdom services, and Kingdom steps for advancement—especially the discipleship and the mentoring of new believers.  I believe they are accepting the “packages” with willingness and an eagerness to do whatever the “Package Creator desires to give them.   It is not about them; it is about the work of building and advancing the Kingdom in the earth.  And, they are becoming more and more visible.
  • On the other hand, there are those believers rejecting the packages being thrown to them. Why wouldn’t a believer want what had been stolen from them?  Why would they want to remain in a state of fear or confusion—even when the thief had been identified and caught?  Could it be that they don’t want to be seen as offensive or controversial?  Are they afraid of confrontation or adversarial responses?  Could it be that they didn’t know what to do with the “package” thrown to them?  Whatever the case, it is clear these are believers that chose to not take part in the retrieval of what had been stolen.  They just stay silent—as if they have no voice.  Might they be labeled as lukewarm?  Are they tossed between two opinions and end in double-mindedness?  You will have to answer these questions.  This group of believers stand around the edge of the camp but because of their distance from the “fire of action”, they can become targets of the enemy and they miss the excitement of Kingdom living that is going on all around them.
  1. Part 3 of the dream I believe points to a coming time of When the dust settles, we start to sort out what has happened.  The devil is a liar and a thief.   He is clearly seen for who he is.  He is caught and his defense is an obvious attempt to avoid justice.  His reason is so weak it is easily dispelled because it too is just another lie.   He is not sorry for his actions; he is only sorry that he got caught.   There is no justification possible for his sinful ways.  He is guilty.  The time has come for all believers to realize that Jesus is both Lamb and Lion.  Judgement is coming.  We leave that in the hands of the Lord.

Conclusion

I believe that to be “lukewarm” in this hour is a place with undesirable consequences—a place in which I don’t want to be.  If this dream is accurate, I believe we could see a type of separation within the believer community.  (Not like a church split separation, but more like a division in spirit—little “s”.)  To sit quietly aside in the face of blatant sin, I believe will have consequences.  I believe the Ekklesia will be rewarded with experiencing the love, power and presence of our mighty God while those who are lukewarm will miss the privilege of the same.  They will see God operate in and through their fellow-believers, but they won’t experience it themselves.  They won’t fully know on this side of heaven the full deliverance, love and power of the Lord.  I would liken it to Jesus’ parable of the 10 virgins.  You know this parable: 5 were prepared and able to attend the intimacy of the wedding feast.  The other 5 were not prepared, saw all of the lavish celebration but did not gain full entry into the feast.

Bringing this back to application for our today, the Kingdom of God is under incredible attack right now because the enemy knows that he has to stop us now or he is finished.  I believe there are generations coming that will carry the torch of the Kingdom well beyond this current generation.  You can already see them emerging in the current events of the day.  Thousands of young people in this nation are coming to the Lord.  Awakening and revival is upon us in these days.  The continuing of the generations is on the line and satan wants to stop it.  Prophet Johnny Enlow says, “The pain is for the awakening.  The awakening is for your children.”  Additionally, persecution is rampant around the world and the western church is just starting to feel it.  There will be more martyrs, but every time more witnesses and more power will be seen.  All of this is for Kingdom reformation.  When that is complete, our Savior will return.

Mat 24:6  “You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. :7  “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. :8  “But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs. :9  “Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. :10  “At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. :11  “Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. :12  “Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold. :13  “But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. :14  “This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

In all of this, I believe victory is at hand.  I can smell it and taste it. BUT, for those who choose, we must finish the good fight.  A good fight is a fight that is won!  We must not back down.  We must not only hold the line but we must advance the line.  We must separate ourselves from the world of sinfulness that surrounds us on every side and boldly stand as Joshua and declare “as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.” (Jos 24:15)  If you choose to be a spectator, then you, like in the choosing of Gideons army of 300, will go to your home and miss the unimaginable victories afforded to the 300. (Judges 7:7-8)  Truly this is the hour of God’s power.  Will you be one who will volunteer freely?  (Ps 110:3)